JUST NOW, SADLY NO MORE LOVELLS UPGRADES FOR 200 SERIES!

 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:46 am    Post subject: JUST NOW, SADLY NO MORE LOVELLS UPGRADES FOR 200 SERIES! Reply with quote

WOW, AND BIG NEWS TO ME! JUST HAPPENED THREE HOURS AGO!! THIS HAS THE WHOLE INDUSTRY REELING...

MORE AS I HAVE IT, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND AND THERE WILL BE NO MORE LOVELLS TOWING CAPACITY INCREASE !!! AS OF JUST THIS MORNING !!!


More as I have it.. Lovells is reeling and so are we here at Bushtracker. All the existing Landcruisers with the Lovells increase are Grandfathered in. They would have had to be, but WOW THIS IS HUGE NEWS... Don't lose sight yet, there would HAVE to be a Legal Challenge on this for them to just change their minds..

I will add to this when I have more... Trying to look after you, Steven Gibbs, Director.. Shocked Confused Exclamation [/b]


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the best three things I can tell you right now:

1) Go see SCD for the NISSAN TITAN !
2) Go see SCD for the NISSAN TITAN !
3) Go see SCD for the NISSAN TITAN !


They also have a 2016 200 Series GX, loaded, Bull Bar, side rails, tow bar and more, 22,000 kms, that has the Lovells Tow Capacity increase... It might not last the morning!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From another site:

It's National.

No more BTC upgrades anywhere.

Applies from the 1st June.

Existing upgrades are OK.



I'm waiting on that site to present a link.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the resale value of my upgraded LC200 just went thru the roof!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add a little more to the intrigue. I found this on the project 200 web page.

https://www.project200.com.au/gvm-upgrade/

Important Update:

As of 5th June 2018, the Federal Dept of Infrastructure (Vehicle Standards), has issued a new circular which prohibits SSM approval of Braked Towing Capacity (BTC) increases, and -depending on interpretation- also notional GCM increases.

Anyone contemplating such increases should contact their engineering signatory and/or state vehicle standards department for clarification of the situation.

This page will be updated as more information becomes available.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be wrong here but delving a little deeper into Federal Gov Transport website it would appear that the previous Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989 is being replaced by the Road Vehicle Standards Bill 2018 And there is a 12 month transitional period in which eg vehicle modifiers like Lovell’s are required to be reapproved. Seems recalls are a big part and also importers like those converting LHD vehicles. Caravan manufacturers building more than 4 vans per year are also mentioned.

Road Vehicle Standards Bill 2018

112. It is important to note that not all modifications prior to the vehicle being provided to a consumer are a contravention of this Bill. For example:

Registered Automotive Workshops are allowed to complete modifications on a vehicle before it is provided for the first time in Australia to the extent it is required by the entry pathway or allowed by the Rules.

Dealers for type approved vehicles may be able to modify a vehicle prior to providing a consumer with the vehicle, so long as the modification is consistent with the type approval.

Second stage manufacturers may be able to modify a vehicle if they hold a type approval for the second stage.

Link:

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6032

ROAD VEHICLE STANDARDS (CONSEQUENTIAL AND TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS) BILL 2018

Link:

http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/ems/r6035_ems_8bb28e49-eaf9-4c8c-86c7-8a35dca0227a/upload_pdf/661947.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.4wdcouncil.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Circular-0-4-6-GVM-upgrade-final.pdf

See para 10.6.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this retrospectively apply? and if not how do you verify that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Dirt wrote:
Does this retrospectively apply? and if not how do you verify that?


First part, no Red Dirt, they can almost NEVER make things like this retrospectively apply, as it is "Grandfathered In" and there would be no end to Lawsuits to reimburse people that invested in it when it was legal..

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Now, there is hope, but you would have to hurry. This morning this link was sent to me, that sounds like it says you can still get it until the end of June.???. Now it is worth a bit of investigation to see if it is possible, but it sounds like they may have a window of opportunity before it is final... Make the call..

https://mr4x4.com.au/no-gcm-upgrades-new-vehicles/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=GCM+upgrades+have+been+banned&utm_campaign=PC+Newsletter+%23214
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys,
latest information from the authorities - issued Jun 29, 2018.

This update clarifies clause 10.6 requirements for recently issued Administrator’s Circular 0-4-6 (Issue 4, June 2018).

Circular 0-4-6 was amended to include arrangements for SSM Light Vehicles that have been subject to a Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) upgrade under Clause 10.

The guidance provided by the Circular 0-4-6 applies to Light Vehicles that includes NA (GVM up to 3.5 tonnes) and NB1 (GVM over 3.5 tonnes and up to 4.5 tonnes) category vehicles.

The revised circular applies to new applications and new amendments to existing Identification Plate Approvals (IPAs). The Circular will not affect the existing IPAs held by the second stage manufacturers. Existing IPA holders can continue to supply to the market vehicles covered by the approved Road Vehicle Descriptors (RVDs). This includes vehicles where the approved RVD has variants that exceed the first stage manufacturer’s Gross Combination Mass (GCM) rating or Rated Towing Capacity or Maximum Braked Towing Mass rating. The second stage manufacturers need to ensure that the current approved RVDs should refer to the current approved RVDs for the first stage manufacturer.

The option of GCM or towing capacity upgrade may be available to consumers in some State/Territory jurisdictions, after the vehicle is supplied to the market.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Mike Davidson,
Head of Lovells

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Dear Authorised Dealers, Production Facilities, Dealerships and Fleet clients,

Contrary to social media and competitors’ spin, Lovells wish to confirm the following which was uploaded to the RVCS website (Federal Dept of Transport and Infrastructure) on Friday 29th June (Note: paragraphs highlighted by Lovells for clarity).

We confirm that there is no change to existing SSM Approvals. Any vehicles (as stated in current SSM Approvals and as noted on current RVDs) can still be plated with GVM Upgrades and Towing Capacity Upgrades (BTC upgrades) under the approved RVD. Thus Lovells SSM Approved kits can continue to be supplied.

The implementation of Administrator’s Circular 0-4-6 is effective for all future IPA Approvals. That is, any SSM Approvals applied for beyond the current valid and active SSM Approvals.

Lovells GVM/GCM/Towing Capacity or variants of these modifications remain 100% legal in all States and Territories for all vehicles in service/previously modified.

Lovells GVM/GCM/Towing Capacity or variants of these modifications remain 100% legal in all States and Territories for all vehicles when modified prior to first registration (Federal Compliance).

Lovells GVM/GCM/Towing Capacity or variants of these modifications remain 100% legal in all States and Territories, other than Queensland, for all vehicles when modified after first registration/in service vehicles (State Compliance). State based GCM modifications are governed by the State Authority and their individual Type Approvals or Modification Codes.

Lovells GVM/GCM/Towing modifications have always been legal and we have always strived to ensure compliance with the Federal, State and Territory Regulators.

The whole point of GVM/GCM/towing upgrades is to ensure the ongoing compliance and safety of vehicles and occupants when carrying/towing heavy loads and thus ensuring the safety of other road users.

Despite false reports in some forums, competitor press releases and industry news pages, safety is not an issue. SSM Approval holders can attest to and advise categorically that there is no evidence of any safety issues, accidents or fatalities due to or related to any GVM/GCM/Towing Upgrade.

Unfortunately, all of the SSM Approval Holders who nominate a revised GCM and/or Towing Capacity increase will be affected by these changes in the future, as will any road user who wishes to tow a caravan, boat, horse float etc.

In Summary
• PRE REGO there is no change in plating vehicles with GVM & Towing Upgrades. GCM as defined by the SSM manufacturer
• POST REGO vehicles can be plated with GVM upgrade. The Towing and GCM upgrade would be supported and approved via State Authorities and state based signatories.

• The implementation of 0-4-6 is for all future SSM approvals


Regards,


Lovells Automotive Systems Pty Ltd
(Incorporating Lovells Suspension)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what did all that fuss and disruption achieve?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loki of Condor wrote:
So what did all that fuss and disruption achieve?


If I'm not mistaken there will be no additional approvals for GCM upgrades approved federally....but those already approved will continue to be okay.

If I'm understanding it properly, that means if you own an older model 200 series (for example) you will still be able to get it uprated as before, but if you buy next years model (for example) you won't be able to do so.....but you will still be able to get the GVM upgraded before first being registered.

But....I could be completely wrong on all counts....it's bloody confusing for sure.

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