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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham,

I only use mine in very hilly country or in town.. No reason on the flat. Now there is a two stage system there. The first Engine Brake goes on ALL the time when ever you let your foot off the accelerator, that one is called Full Engine Brake and it will really impact your fuel economy.. You cannot coast, it will be on accelerate or engine brake working against you all the time... That will hurt fuel economy.

Push the button again and you get Automatic Engine brake, now that one you can "coast" on and only comes on when you touch the brake... That is the one that you can run on without much of a loss of fuel economy....

If you run on Tow Haul Mode, on the flat, and Engine Brake on Full, you WILL burn a lot of excess fuel as you will be go, pull back, go, pull back, constantly working against yourself. Also it limits your coasting to the set speed limit on "Cruise Control" and not allow you to coast over the set speed, and that will cost you fuel. I would only run Tow Haul Mode in town, or with a very large load up on the limits. It is a bit of a waste on the flat easy going or with a smaller van. It sort of splits the gears and holds on longer on the hills, and is good for the transmission around town as well as on the hills.. But like I said you cannot coast far without it down shifting on the Tow Haul mode on cruise control.... Turn it off and you can coast down a gentle slope and even exceed the speed limit a little if you like with cruise control off and it off... Have a play, I coast a lot...

Kind regards, Steven Gibbs, Director, Ram Enthusiast.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steve, you have confirmed we are using the tow mode correctly. We have noticed that in very hilly terrain it seems to take longer then necessary to disingage from third gear. Is this normal or should we have it looked into? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Graham
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea,
It feels like it splits the gear a bit in town, and it stays in a lower gear pulling a hill, higher revs, less lug on the engine using the gears for higher RPM...

If you clean up the engine, EGR and so on (talk with SCD) and run TC-W3 diesel additive and I also use 1mm per litre of Fuel Doctor, then this is probably a million km engine..!!!

Regards, Rig Junkie truck enthusiast... Cowboy....
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mate currently traveling oz in our ram 2500 with bt in tow 6 months in always engage tow haul and breaking system awesome system no noticeable difference in fuel . Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here is probably the best Testimonial for the Dodge Ram, possible...
Besides more safety, more control, engine braking in manual and automatic modes, less driver fatigue, more leverage on the van, and a better ride and luxury level more than a Sahara.... There IS something more.

This is probably the heaviest 2500 HD Dodge Ram, Cummins Diesel, first of all it is a Mega-Cab. This is about 400 mm longer cab, room for a bed in the back. Also a Leer FG canopy. Then it has the heaviest duty steel Bull Bar, a Ranch Hand, made to save truck and driver hitting cattle, and a winch...



Then it has the heaviest duty rear bumper, checker plate top, all steel box section, made to protect it backing into things and terror on "Tail-Gaters".. Laughing




Third it has the heavy duty bed slide out, big Sidchrome toolbox that is loaded, a fridge/freezer in stainless, a 220 litre fuel tank and 3 meter hose to auto shut off, and another larger tool box with 5 power tools and attachments, and 200 amp Lithium, and charger, LVD, and DC to DC... and more.. I am ready to "Homestead" anywhere I stop... Laughing



So what about the Testimonial? Yesterday I went down to south Brisbane, to Hillcrest, 237 kms round trip. Mostly highway, but some city traffic. Now I was carrying a long tonne, more than a Landcruiser can even do, and I got 9.7 litres per hundred.

Mind you, I have a Tuner, and Ram Cold Air intake with a Snorkel, and modified exhaust.. But 9.7 litres/100 k? Carrying a long tonne? Most Landcruisers cannot get that good running empty. Further, to rub salt in the wound..Laughing Mine rides better than my Sahara, my Wife wants to take the Ram on any trips towing or not, and it has luxury the Sahara does not even have... he heh... Wink

It is totally NOT NECESSARY for vans up to 20'-21', but it IS better. It only becomes necessary for larger vans over 21', and yes it is nicer and better..!

Kind regards, Cowboy at Bushtracker

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi has anyone checked how accurate the fuel computer is on the Rams v the fuel pump?
Thinking of a new 18 and there was a report the computer was a bit out.
Any thoughts?

Thanks Laurie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaurieS wrote:
Hi has anyone checked how accurate the fuel computer is on the Rams v the fuel pump?
Thinking of a new 18 and there was a report the computer was a bit out.
Any thoughts?

Thanks Laurie


Somebody on this group might be able to assist Laurie.

http://www.caravanersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=63067

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:19 am    Post subject: Ram Fuel Reply with quote

I did check the computer figures against fill up figure once on my last trip and I think from memory the comp was a little optimistic but was very minor my Amarok is much the same, and i think the 200 cruiser was similar it wasn't of great enough difference to be worried about.
Averaged 18lt/100kl on our last trip 6,000 klm Atherton Tablelands to south east Qld corner and back via Carnarvon Gorge towing a 20ft BT, yeah we went the long way
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:25 am    Post subject: Ram Reply with quote

Thanks Steve /Penny
One other question how does the Ram like dirt roads ?
Some say they dance around and develop rattles ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lkelectrical wrote:
Hi guys has any body out there with a ram , f truck ect been able to get racq roadside assisistance they have told me the gvm of my ram is to big pretty lousy as my policy is with racq and they can't help any info would be great. Cheers Luke


Hi Luke we’re also with RACQ and told the same thing even with Ultimate roadside they say it is too big for a tilt tray, but I know they have some big tilt trays around the country. As for roadside assistance anything with modern can bus electrics they cant do anything roadside anyhow. Except the old disconnect the battery for 5 mins. But anything longer than 30 secs is a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laurie our trip computer runs about 1tr/100km optimistic to hand calculated fill/distance. Dirt road handling, adjusting tyre pressure makes big difference.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:39 pm    Post subject: Ram Will it fit on a tilt tray..!! Reply with quote

Yes it will, trust me I know.
During our recent trip to Brisbane we had just pulled up and unhitched the van when I noticed some wetness around the front right wheel arch and discovered one of the power steering hoses had blown.
Called Ram assist and they had a lit tray to me within 30mins and off to one of the service agents at Kippa Ring.
Had it back by 3 the next day all fixed, cant complain about the service.
I suspect there may be some GVM differences between some of the tilt trays

So to any one out there with an ASV Ram there is actually a "service campaign" regarding a faulty power steering hose, if you haven't had yours checked get it done.

As for RACQ I have actually just joined so will def have to follow that up.
Actually I did state exactly what the vehicle was and didn't appear to be a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Ram Reply with quote

LaurieS wrote:
Thanks Steve /Penny
One other question how does the Ram like dirt roads ?
Some say they dance around and develop rattles ?
Cheers


Hi Laurie,
I have only done about 25 Klm of dirt so far, was a back road around Charters Towers to get around a Truck chemical spill last month was fairly rugged and well used including a sandy creek bed but the Ram did it easily however I have replaced the standard suspension springs and shocks with some top end gear it now has a lot more travel and suppleness so probably not relevant to a standard one
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Ram Reply with quote

LaurieS wrote:
Thanks Steve /Penny
One other question how does the Ram like dirt roads ?
Some say they dance around and develop rattles ?
Cheers

I’ve done about 8,000km on dirt/gravel roads, including the plenty highway, about half towing the BT. That certainly has not been my experience. It’s quite different to the lanscruiser in the way it rides and handles, i would say the pros and cons are about even. The longer wheel base certainly gives better/easier handling on the corners if the back end is a little loose. The 200 is a softer ride, but then again i’ve always had upgraded suspension on the 200, the RAM is stock standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:58 pm    Post subject: Do you still believe SCD to offer the best conversion? Reply with quote

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Hello Friends,
I keep getting ask on the controversy of whom does the best conversion. This is my answer and the real Engineering as to why, with pictures you can see for yourself if you get down on your hands and knees and look for yourself..

So all the other Companies use a new right hand steering box... Our drivers side.. The new "made to order" right hand drive steering box proposed still in my view still not as good... Let me digress to show you pictures and try and be more descriptive OK?

First off all, nothing beats the 20 year developmental engineering of the original steering and the original engine bay layout. A new right hand drive steering shaft and steering box wrecks both. However, there is a more serious problem. The original steering box was on the left side (our passenger side). The normal way is to put a right hand steering box in (our drivers side). The problem is this does not work because the steering arm still goes down from the left hand side to the right hand side. Because of this, most use the old steering box, as a turning box, so the steering arm still goes from that left side to the right hand side (looking forward)...

Here is what it looks like on the right hand side (our drivers side) looking at it from the front, and on the bottom you see the "Tie Rod", that connects both left and right together, and above it you see the steering arm that comes down from the left. This whole assembly is call the " steering knuckle" in Old School...



As you look at these, keep in mind these knuckle joints and disc brakes are HUGE, it is just that is the inside of a 20" wheel...... Now the problem is, that you can easily have a custom steering box made for the right hand side for right hand steering, but the steering arm would then go down to the left, and there is no way to hook up to the left hand side. That piece you are looking at, usually called the steering knuckle, on the left: Only has a place for the tie rod that connects both wheels, it is very high strength forged steel, and you cannot just go willy nilly and add a piece to it for the steering arm to hook up to.. That steering knuckle on the left, our passenger side, is only set up for the tie rod end you see in this picture:



There is no way to hook up the steering arm there in an adequate way: THAT is why most conversions use the old box, as a "turning box" with a whole extra shaft from right to left, more complications and more to go wrong, and just not as good as the original steering... If you look under the front end you will see ANOTHER steering arm from our Drivers side over to the passenger side to use the old steering box as a turning box. That is ANOTHER steering arm, and two more ball joints and that much more play and to go wrong.. THAT is specifically why I prefer the SCD conversion, as it preserves the original steering, original steering arm down to the steering knuckle, and the original engine bay layout... IMO every other conversion is a compromise, a poor second choice with compromised results.

Kind regards, from the truck fanatic (Rig Junkie in Old School).
Steven Gibbs, Director, Bushtracker


Hi Steve,

I am in the process of wanting to purchase a 3500 Dually which will be my daily driver. I will be taking the factory tub off and getting a tool canopy made for work.

I am confused about who to go with. Thee are quiet a few and SCD and maracoonda are two I am looking at, both doing the conversion different.

What you have explained in your posts makes sense to me in terms of leaving things how ram intended. I guess thee are some things such as windscreen wipers that are a pain on the SCD conversion in that the6 remain unaltered...but no problems in future I guess.

I have seen pics of your new granite limited dually, this is the SCD conversion from my understanding, with the HO engine and Aison transmission. Still the best conversion?

I would like the HO engine however am concerned on fuel consumption. Any different to the standard output engine in your experience? I will really only ever have full payload on, and later in life two a bushtracker. It’s my normal driving I am concerned with just running with normal full payload on.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Rob,

SCD is still the very best conversion.. There is a Topic on this in this Category and the reasons are still the same.. .

On the new Engine Controls and the recent mods, I cannot comment as we do not have any long term experience with it.

On the Transmission, most 3500’s come with the AISIN transmission, world famous in Tow Trucks. IMO a grade better that what you said Allison. Allison was bought by Chevrolet for the name. Aisin is the very best and feels like positive shifting acceleration and deceleration like a manual.

All the best...
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